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@Death Rider Mox oh no, I'm fine with the whys, it's the how. How extreme a change it was.
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Interesting take. Maybe I will have to watch it again when it release on bluray.
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Movie's probably extremely rewatchable for me too. The unreliable narrator and all the body-language shit (he walks with a limp and his head down, which we're supposed to believe came from his injuries at the beginning of the movie, but when he becomes a clown, all of that disappears, implying that most of what he does as Arthur is also an act. Shit like that)
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Movie was ace. My favourite part was all the dumb giggling teens in the cinema I went to, laughing at awkward parts about mental health etc, shutting the fuck up when the movie took a turn. Felt it was a solid 8/10 it was pitch fucking perfect until the rant really began towards the end. I docked it two points for Joker's complete characteristic change. Tempted to add another point on though for: Yeah. Fuck it. That and "that scene" in his apartment, fuck it, 9/10.
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That's kind of what I'm getting at. There are movies that glorify violence to a much greater extent and I have no idea what made this the target. It doesn't even make sense.
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I think the controversy was that it made the incel killer potentially sympathetic, and normies think that stuff like this can inspire incels to copycat. Mebs some of it about gun violence, but I dunno about that one, there's like 800 movies that feature that released every year.
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Yeah. Great movie. Not one you want to really rewatch a lot but still really great. I'm still not sure what all this dumb ass controversy is about. Seems like people talking out of their assess.
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Yeah, I really liked it. It was kind of a disturbing movie to watch, but I definitely enjoyed it.
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This movie is going to be weird as hell. Pretty sure of that. I'm interested.
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It looks like they're focusing on his origin being purely his decent into madness and nothing to do with a sudden fall into a chemical vat or something. A background based on an extreme and unique mental illness fits the "motivations are so fluid and ever changing you can't fully grasp his intent" concept pretty well I'd think.
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It's definitely not supposed to be a definitive version of the Joker origins. People have called it an Elseworld Joker film.
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Makes me think of a cross between Ledger's Joker and the old 1960's Batman Joker. Not sure how I feel about it, but there is promise there, and knowing Phoenix's acting ability I'm willing to wait and see how it goes before getting too judgmental. My knee jerk reaction is to not like it, mostly because I'm not sure I care for the aesthetic at all but there's promise in the pieces so I'm interested to see how it does.
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I think you're pigeonholing the Joker. Wait and see. I think this could be good. Also I prefer to think of it as just one possibility among many rather than the definitive story of the Joker. Makes it more fun.
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Phoenix could have the greatest Joker performance of all time and won't help this concept imho. The entire concept behind the Joker is this insane criminal whose background and motivations are so fluid and ever changing you can't fully grasp his intent. Making a movie centered around a character who is supposed to be unfocused will make an unfocused mess of a movie. When he is playing off of OTHERS though, he becomes this element of chaos to the story that can leave the audience guessing and the story moving. That's his gold spot.
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I think you're being closed minded. This has a lot of potential imo. I'm not going opening night mind you. Will definitely wait to see the reviews lol.
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Honestly depending on how this goes it might be pretty good.
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Bad. A solo Joker movie is a terrible idea. The character only works when he is NOT the center of attention.
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Is that a good "I can't believe" or a bad one? What I'm wondering is how Adam Tyduk got picked for the role in the Harley TV spin off but that can be for another thread.
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I honestly still can't believe this was greenlit.
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I'm definitely interested. Heath Ledger eat your heart out.
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I am cautiously optimistic about this movie. I love Joaquin Phoenix and this movie looks fucking intense. I hope it's good. DC looks like they're starting to figure this shit out finally and I could not be happier.
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It actually doesn't look half bad.
