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I assumed it was a side effect from Wanda's chaos magic originally since, at the time I thought most of the hex was her intentional doing. Now that you bring us back to this and thinking over what we've seen, it could have been A. Unintentional Side effect from Wanda's magic since she didn't fully know what she was doing. B. Agatha's tampering to keep outsiders away from her investigations of Wanda's abilities as much as possible C. Something that we're missing or just not seeing yet that could possibly be brought up later. I legit wouldn't be surprised if it was Agatha messing with shit.
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As far as I was aware, I didn't think the shows Runaways, Cloak/Dagger and so forth were part of the MCU phases. But I may have to give Runaways a watch if some of the talk is true. (I didn't care much for Cloak/Dagger) I absolutely loved the 2nd Easter egg with Astral Wanda. Makes me wonder if she sought out Strange to understand some of this chaos magic before she went out into hiding and researching. Edit: Had to look up about the Darkhold since I'm clueless about these details. In one article it points out that the Synopsis for next Dr Strange sets it up fairly well hint for what might be a battle between Wanda and Strange. “Dr Stephen Strange’s continuing research on the Time Stone is hindered by a friend-turned-enemy, resulting in Strange unleashing unspeakable evil.” Between what we've seen there in that post cred scene and this, it leaves a possibility.
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HAWT DAMN. -Getting Alt-Quicksilver aka Ralph, again! -Battle of the Visions! -Scarlet Witch outfit! -Agatha being sealed. -MONICA'S FUCKING POWERS -The twins wielding their powers!!!! -That fucking goodbyyyyyyeeeeeeeee So that didn't go what most of us were expecting and that's totes fine with me. No surprise that the townsfolk feel how they do against Wanda now. Jimmy GOD DAMN IT MY FRIEND WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE SKRULL OMG EASTER EGG NUMBER 2!!!!
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Only a half hour to go! ((Unless you're londish or the non West coast peeps))
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......nope. Maybe eventually but NOT before tonight. Althought I haven't watched Legends, I thought that was a documentary?
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I don't have to work until 10 in the morning so gonna actually try and stay up for the finale tonight!
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I feel like it won't be the last we see of him. We did see him (what looked like) taking out Monica at the house on the last post credit snippet before the end of scene. I don't think they would throw Alt-Pietro in there just for an episode and a quip cameo.
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@Peeve I was thinking the same thing talking with someone else about the options we have here - Wanda gonna have to fight Nega-Vision (yes I'm calling him that). And somewhere there she'll either have to kill him. - Nega-Vision and Westview Vision might merge in order to overall save everything - Westview Vision might sacrifice himself in order to beat Nega-Vision Any way this goes, Wanda is going to be even more royally wrecked than she already was. Also I like MT's theory that Hayward could be Mephisto but I still almost feel like it could be Alt-Pietro. Yes Agatha called him Fake but we saw him attack Monica, and Agatha didn't quite say she was the one who made fake Pietro. So part of me is still on the whole Pietro is Mephisto possibly.
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Hayward manipulated the footage to lie that Wanda stole Vision. Idk how much of that army that was there in the beginning was all in the know about that truth but Hayward definitely did it because of Monica, Darcy, and Jimmy. I FUCKING KNEW IT. He probably used the footage manipulation as a backup plan since he so "considerately" let Wanda in at the S.W.O.R.D headquarters without much fight. He probably didn't know what Wanda was capable of fully but he probably purposely pushed Wanda to use her as a Test dummy for their Newly Made Vision. My question was, did Hayward give her that property deed? Or was it something Vision had in what few belongings they had when they were on the run? Garage I'm no gonna be ready for the last episode.
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Okay so we were right that someone else was pulling some of Wanda's strings. Daaaamn so does that mean that Alt Pietro isn't real? Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhb! Monica has powers now! Poor Darcy
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At first I liked Nelles theory that Pietro aka Peter (which is this quicksilver name in Xmen if I remember?) Being Mephisto in disguise. But after seeing how he was I honestly wonder. He came clean that he knew Wanda was in charge (more or less) but that she didn't seem to be in the wrong, which would be something a villian would say to keep her at it. Seeing Vision fall apart from trying to break out of the Hex crushed me. Kids have their perspective superpowers now Creepy ad was creepy, I wonder if it was referring to the survivors of the Blip in that one I mean that's kinda what neighborhood watches were like, they would be "fighting crime" in their community vs relying on cops to. But it could also be a subconcious thing for Vision because he is an Avenger (despite him not having any memories)
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This is what I was thinking too. If it just stopped at how he acted during the briefing that'd possibly be just him being a jerk. But every action he's done here and totally shooting down Monica and Wu's advice of "she's in grief/shoe's not doing this for a political agenda" means he is trying to cover something up and fast before anyone finds out. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if he gave the order to dissect Vision which might have been what was going on in that room when Wanda stormed in.
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It HAS to be Mephisto. He has the ability to look like anyone he wants and other than Spiderman/Stark and specific other characters, Mephisto would be the only one who knows about the Multi-verses
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The kids made it very clear that they have a mind of their own. Also Hayward is totes Sus. He's quick to label Wanda and this situation a terrorist attack, Wanda was all guns on him when she confronted SWORD, and during the briefing when they showed Wanda breaking in to get Vision, it was convenient that they cut the footage right after she barged into the room his body was in. While it does confirm that Wanda is manipulating Vision (to an extent now that he's become more aware even without his stone) there's something that happened in that room to trigger Wanda. Big time.
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Okay that's 2 for 2 on my friends guesses. 1 being Vision's corpse being manipulated 2. Pietro. But was not expecting Xmen version but also not surprised that it's this one because we now have the Multiverse into account. Wanda and Visions fight. Damn. He maybe reanimated but he's certainly got his got his awareness up and ready. Also how the kids wondered why Dad was at work and debating the difference of what day it is with Wanda. Do they have some awareness of their own? I laughed when they called her out by asking to bring Sparky back from the dead.
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Yup, the character we got introduced to when she was a kid. So this is her adult sized and the actress will be in the next Captain Marvel. I missed the part about the 3 weeks ( I was watching it right before work early morning) So ya, roughly a month after people blip back sounds about right.
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Between the Vision scene and Monica blipping back, we have a rough timelime vs movies of when this is happening. Def after Endgame but not fully sure how far after that. I blame my friend for this image in my head so suffer with me, seeing Dead Vision for that brief moment, does that possibly mean that this is Vision's corpse Wanda is manipulating like a puppet or illusion Vision? Because he seems under her control until he has his moments of second guessing. -What happened to the missing Agent? -What happened to the other drones? -Are we gonna bounce between WandaTown and Reality outside the barrier in future episodes?
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Wanda's taken Westview hostage in her mental breakdown. In a nutshell. I fucking got all tingly when they started the ep from people coming back from The Snap. Just holy fuck that sucks for Monica that she never got to day goodbye to her mom. I wanted to scream at the cops when they said Westview didn't exist "YOU HAVE A GIANT BILLBOARD SAYING WELCOME TO WESTVIEW RIGHT BEHIND YOU" but the fact that Monica and Wu didn't point it out to them makes me wonder if they could see it or if they didn't waste time trying to point out something they clearly didn't think was there. KAAAAAAT Agreed on the missing agent and drones. I cringed when Wanda saw post dead Vision for that moment. Her illusion is cracking in bits now that SWORD more or less "accidentally" became aware of this happening from a missing persons report. Things are gonna get fucking good here.
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That might be possible, especially if Wanda is legit pregnant and had the twins for real vs willing them into existence in this illusion because pregnancies already alter things chemically in the body. She might have had baby brain at that time so to speak.
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To be fair how long has it really been since we've had weekly updates to be all tingly with anticipation for that ISN'T Mandalorian? (Been too long for me really)
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So I watched a breakdown YouTube vid and it helped make a tiny bit more sense for me. I will put it in a spoiler tag just because he does talk about some comic stuff that could be spoiler potential and there is 1 spoiler alert he gives on some info at the end of the video that I decided not to watch on the off chance it was future episode talk stuff.
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Thank you I knew I was spelling it wrong 🤣
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Definitely agree that the neighbors and townsfolk are SWORD agents. But then why would they be worried about Geraldine being "new in town with no family/home/etc." And after she got booted out what we now see is a HUGE forcefield that Wanda created. (I was imagining it being her in a room locked up and sedated-ish) the soldiers surround her with guns. So is she a double agent? Or is there something else we aren't seeing? I still think Wanda is doing this willingly. She seems very determined to ignore the bigger issues like when Vision pointed out there might be something wrong with her and when she was remembering her brother. Including the lullaby. SWORD might be monitoring things to make sure whatever is going on in "her town" doesn't effect the rest of reality and the world on a bigger scale?
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The actress is confirmed in Captain Marvel II
